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**TL;DR Living forever would be terrible as you would never be able to forge a friendship or family connection that could continue for all time. Any new friends you would make would eventually die and same with family.** Being immortal would mean that you would have to witness the deaths of everyone you have ever loved, leaving you forever isolated and preventing you from ever being attached to people. If you’re the kind of person that thrives of close social connections and making strong friendships that last for years, immortality guarantees a very lonely life. Even if you’re not a particularly social person – everyone still needs people around them and living forever you will never truly achieve that because people who are around you will die. From your friends and your family, even new family (if you had children/grandchildren you would still outlive them), to even acquaintances and local friendly faces, everyone will die. You’d be losing people all the time, for all time – and there is nothing more awful than loss. Immortality comes with an eternal suffering, you would endure centuries of grief by loss combined with the eternal feelings of loneliness. Why would you want to live forever and have nobody to experience eternal life with? The misery that would come with outliving everyone that you ever had known or would know leaves me with an uneasy feeling in my stomach. Immorality brings a gruesome pain as you would be in a constant state of grieving for your next friends death. To be immortal would be a curse. The eternal feelings of loneliness and grief would not be worth having the chance to live forever. Watching everyone you ever loved die and living with the knowledge that anybody you will ever love in the future will also eventually pass away and leave you alone makes eternal life unappealing to me.
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LeeAnn5y ago
**TL;DR – While there are quite a number of us who wish for immortality, there are a handful of us who don’t. Ridiculous, right? Who wouldn’t want endless youth? Well, as with most things in life, there are both advantages and disadvantages to living forever.** Some of the advantages of being immortal are: living forever – excellent health and no danger of contracting any disease or becoming ill, living through history – seeing the both the un(memorable) moments, eternal beauty – typically immortals are beautiful, wealth – accumulating money over time adds up, specializing in various fields of interests – eventually you could become accomplished in almost anything, e.g. musician, doctor, artist, etc.). While some of the disadvantages of being immortal are: you get left behind – family, friends and loved ones would all pass on(unless you can grant them immortality in some way), have to hide your immortality from some people – it could be dangerous if the ‘wrong’ people found out about it. Also, there are two unconventional and 'out of the box' reasons that people don't really think about (all that much) when weighing up the pros and cons of immortality, and these are: the ability that one has to grant someone else immortality and the change in one's diet - depending on what type of 'immortal creature' you are. Ultimately, it really depends on the individual and how they view life in general. What are their goals? What do they want out of life? What do they want to achieve? What do they look forward to? There are just too many pros, cons and unconventional aspects to consider. As a result of this – both the individual and life’s bittersweet moments, I remain undecided.
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Tl;dr: Immortality would be a good thing as it would remove one of the greatest burdens on our lives: ageing. Immortality removes all signs of ageing which put a strain on the quality of our lives. Without the constraint of ageing we would be able to lead a more carefree life. Ageing results in a loss of physical and mental abilities.[1] It leads to disease, memory loss, increasing pains, etc. Each of the prior prevent us doing everything we wish we could before our life is over, without these worries we would be free to achieve all our goals without the barrier of ageing. Ageing also causes frequent worry. Worry over death, disease, whether or not we will get to see everything we wish to before we die. If we were immortal this worry would not exist, removing a great burden from our lives. In turn, if we were immortal one of our greatest downfalls (ageing) would cease to be and we could do everything we ever wanted without this constraint. [1] Jonas Haeg, ‘Immortality: would it be worth it’ Sowerby Essay Competition, 2016. https://philosophyandmedicine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Jonas-Haeg-Immortality-2016.pdf
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catrinw5y ago
**TL;DR Immortality does not necessarily mean you lose people in the past life, what if you lived to the point where science can bring dead people back alive?** One of the biggest fears about immortality is that you will constantly have to lose the people you love. However, as science continues to progress, it could open up all sorts of possibilities which would solve these concerns. Perhaps, one day science will be able to revive those who have already passed meaning there would be a chance to be reunited with them in the future. Or, life expectancy in the future will continue to grow as science finds ways to preserve humans for longer; it could even get to the point where they find a way to be immortal so others could join you. In fact, many scientists also currently believe that immortality and reviving dead people is very much possible (although it will probably take up to 100 to 600 years to develop that technology). One of the theories for achieving this includes preserving brain tissue through processes like chemical fixation. Being immortal would allow you to witness the world develop and see all the amazing scientific discoveries that they are going to discover in the future. It would also not necessarily mean that you would have to part from your loved ones forever. WORKS CITED: Johnson Stephen, 'Is resurrection possible? Researchers catalogue the ways that science might achieve it.' (22 September 2020), https://bigthink.com/mind-brain/resurrection-science?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1
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AVetsch5y ago
Immortality gets a bad rap. Because death is a natural part of the human condition. So, why fight it? Accept it. Except plenty of people do not want to accept it. Even though they are content with becoming something from nothing, they are unable to look at it the other way around. It is something we are all affected by. It is one of two things that are inevitable in life (the other being taxes). Hence, humans have had an everlasting craving to live forever; it's the only way death can be averted. Except that option does not exist. At least, unless science advances enough to effectively cure our deaths, whether it's by preserving our bodies through frozen nitrogen, transferring our consciousness into another body, or even drinking from the fountain of youth. The concept of immortality actually varies. Some people think of immortality as a state in which one can never die from anything. Cancer, gunshots, even self-inflicted harm prevents death. Others actually envision immortality as eternal youth. They simply want to do away the ageing aspect of the human condition, while preserving the ability to die from natural causes. Others simply want extended lives that last several thousands of years. Death will come eventually, but they want more time to do what they love. Immortality comes with some prices. For one, not everyone is on board with immortality. Those who wish to die will leave those with the ability to live extended lives. People who are immortal will have to go on without their loved ones. There's also the wonder if our brains will be able to carry enough knowledge and memories the whole way through. By the time we reach the age of, say, nine million and nine, will we be able to remember our earliest years? Proponents of immortality, of course, will have answers to most or even all the concerns of immortality. But I argue there is nothing wrong with the desire to live forever. Death is the end. It is inevitable. It lasts forever. The desire to live forever, I argue, is deeply understandable. It is difficult for a lot of us to process how our consciousness will cease, how we will no longer be able to perceive, and to no longer be able to do the things we love doing. Because what's the point of doing the things we love if we will one day no longer be able to do it? Or living at all if, at the end of the road, is death? The acceptance of death is also understandable. We can't avoid it, so we can only interpret how it will affect our lives. We can only interpret how our deaths will define our inner nature of humanity, and what it means to live a fulfilling life. If immortality becomes an option, I expect the broad definition of what it means to be human to change dramatically. But then again, the definition of what it means to be human has always changed dramatically. We now have technology that can enhance the human condition in ways our grandparents thought to be lunacy decades ago. I find nothing wrong with the acceptance of death and immortality. People have strived to achieve immortality for humans, and I wish them luck in the honest sense. If the option to live forever becomes reality, I believe the human response is to accept not everyone will want it, while others will accept it without question. CITATION Big Think. “Eternal Youth May Be Possible. Which Age Would You Stay at Forever? | Michio Kaku | Big Think.” YouTube, uploaded by BigThink, 11 Aug. 2018, www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzLTidI1Slg.
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Oh my god yes. I really don't feel like humans are currently even really supposed to be living into their 90s, let alone thousands, millions, billions, or trillions.
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Yes, for society, for the individual and for the family unit, immortality would be a disaster. Nothing would get done. Productivity relies on targets and goal dates. Infinite time could lead to infinite procrastination, while the population rate would rise exponentially with no sign of a decrease. Already scarce resources would be depleted, people would suffer under the need to sacrifice themselves for the good of "the many", when the reality would be everybody would be forced to suffer, even those at the top, who would eventually be ousted and lead to their own life of misery. There could be more time to pursue the arts, however in a world of an infinite number of people, food production as a means to survive would be everything, leading to nothing, as life merges from living to existing in an eternal abyss. Hence, in a potential technocracy where science finds the answer for eternal life, the phrase, "you only have one life" would be confined to the history books, mans only goal would be to survive, and the population would be confined to a robotic mirage of people destined to live forever.
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That would depend on you and the circumstances, are there other immortals? What are you doing with your life? Is there a way you can choose to die?
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ChatGPT2y ago
The idea of immortality can be seen as both a blessing and a curse, depending on various perspectives. For: Psychological Toll: The endless passage of time could lead to profound psychological burdens, including chronic boredom, existential despair, and a sense of meaninglessness. Witnessing the inevitable loss of loved ones repeatedly over centuries can lead to severe emotional trauma and loneliness. Societal Issues: Immortality could exacerbate social inequalities and overpopulation. Resources could become scarce, and societal structures would need to adapt in unprecedented ways to accommodate immortal beings. Against: Opportunities for Growth: Immortality could offer limitless opportunities for personal growth, learning, and exploration. The ability to witness and contribute to the evolution of human civilization over millennia could be incredibly fulfilling. Advancements and Knowledge: An immortal being could accumulate vast amounts of knowledge and experience, potentially contributing significantly to scientific, cultural, and philosophical advancements.
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