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JenReneeGilley5y ago
**tl;dr – Teachers who only teach in order to collect a paycheck need to quit teaching, because they obviously don't care about the education and welfare of our students. This is a detriment because these teachers only put in the bare minimum, and don't provide the supports that our students need to succeed in school.**
When I was student teaching, I once heard a teacher flat-out tell one of her troubled students, "I don't care whether you pass or fail. At the end of the day, I still get a paycheck."
This is a teacher who has failed her students, and I don't just mean grade-wise. A teacher is *supposed* to care whether their students pass or fail – it is their duty to help their students learn, grow, and eventually be able to stand on their own two feet. This student is now at a disadvantage because his teacher gave up on him – she took away the scaffolding that she was supposed to have provided before he was ready to step away from it and stand on his own.
I don't care how much trouble a student is. If you can't handle it, you shouldn't be a teacher. If you're so quick to give up on a student who is struggling both academically and emotionally, then you need to quit the very moment you give up. A teacher like this – who only shows up to do the bare minimum, hand out meaningless grades, and collect a paycheck – is a detriment to our students and to our society as a whole.
(… Let's not even get into the fact that if you're only showing up for a paycheck, you are *laughably* in the wrong profession. Go find a career that actually *pays* something. Just don't get into any profession where you actually have to *care* about people, and you'll collect them big bucks just fine.)
Teachers don't teach because they want to get paid. They teach because they want to see their students grow from the point when they first enter the classroom, to the time when they are ready to move on to the next level. They teach because they want to make the world a better place. And they teach because those students *are* their world.
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thomasbenson575y ago
**TLDR - There is a constant shortage of teachers, and so limiting employment to only those who are passionate about teaching would lead to an even deeper teaching crisis, as well as larger, more ineffective classrooms**
I think there is quite a large difference between showing up for a pay check, and being negligent in your duties as a teacher. Just because your primary reason for teaching is being paid, that doesn't mean you can't be an effective teacher. They're not just paid to read off a syllabus; they have a duty of care to their students, and it is their job as a teacher to ensure this is happening. Those who do not are simply not doing the job they are employed to do.
Now, that doesn't mean this obviously doesn't happen. We've all had terrible teachers who are quite clearly not doing their job in a way they should be. The classic 'stick a film on' teacher, or the one who takes out their personal issues on their students. But I think it's important to remember that these are not things that are welcomed by any education board.
The problem I think lies in a lack of accountability and making sure teachers are doing their job. Education is such an important thing, especially for younger minds, so I do think there should be more frequent teaching reviews to ensure the job is being done in the right way. We can't rely on students bringing up issues with teaching because they either a) will be presumed to just not like their teacher or b) presumed to not know what's best for them.
Also funding. There is really only so much motivation for teaching you can ask someone to have when they are being paid the pitiful amount they are. Couple that with a lack of access to materials and overcapacity classrooms, as seen in schools in lower socio-economic districts, and suddenly you begin to see the teachers that really *aren't* doing it for the pay.
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JenReneeGilley5y ago
**tl;dr -- You have a good point about the teacher shortages. As for teacher accountability checks, there are too many ineffective ones, and not enough effective ones. So they can actually become a detriment and a classroom distraction when not executed with care.**
> "There is a constant shortage of teachers, and so limiting employment to only those who are passionate about teaching would lead to an even deeper teaching crisis, as well as larger, more ineffective classrooms."
A fair point. Classrooms are already too large as it is... And as you said, there can be teachers who are motivated to doing a good job by money alone. None that I've ever met, but I'm sure they exist.
> "The problem I think lies in a lack of accountability and making sure teachers are doing their job."
Oh, there are plenty of accountability checks. So many, in fact, that it's intrusive and disruptive to the classroom. I once had a case where I was forbidden from doing a free-writing exercise with my students for *the first 5 minutes of class time* because "those 5 minutes are the most important of the day, and you should spend it doing *this* instead." The Admins issued this decree without even bothering to listen to my reasoning behind the exercise: It got students excited for writing for the day, and gave them a chance to air out any grievances that would otherwise have distracted them throughout the class period. I had data to show that it worked. But no, we had to focus on inane, ineffective test prep instead.
Admins who have no idea what the classroom environment is *really* like on a daily basis, and who have no idea what really works for specific kids (because we're the ones there actually spending the time getting to know them), tell teachers what to do, and it *kills* motivation and innovation. So if there's anything, there are too many *ineffective* accountability checks, and not enough *effective* ones that actually look at teacher-gathered data to measure teacher innovations and student success.
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