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TL;DR If people cannot have children at no fault of their own why should our national health service not provide a reasonable means to attain this. By reasonable I mean not an unlimited number of times.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/cosmetic-procedures/cosmetic-procedures-on-the-nhs/
Why do people have a right to take tax payers money for their own desires of a child?
Most people who use IVF do so out of sluggishness not health. They waited too long to have a baby and then want the state to pay for it. Just adopt a kid or plan ahead.
To say that most people use IVF out of 'sluggishness' as opposed to health issues is incorrect and rather quite an obtuse way of looking at this. Whilst there a probably a number of health conditions that affect women's infertility, I will just pick up on 2 to elaborate my point. Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome(PCOS) is a common cause of infertility affecting 1 in 10 women of childbearing age. Endometriosis has also been linked to difficulties in women becoming pregnant and this affects around 10% of reproductive age women and girls globally. To put that into figures approximately 190 million women. So it is not the case that the majority of women have simply 'waited too long to have a baby'
This comment also pushes the narrative that women have time constraints when it comes to starting a family, something that obviously does not get applied to men in the same way. Whilst it is true that the chances of women getting pregnant declines as she ages, this line of thinking is quite frankly outdated.
How is it outdated thinking? The majority of women who use ivf do so because they are too old. That is simply a fact. Women's fertility drops hugely after about the age of 30. If they had kids younger then they probably would conceive naturally. This has nothing to do with being outdated and nothing to do with men. It has everything to do with natural biology.
If a woman wants to roll the dice with her fertility that is her choice but why should the state then pay when she loses that gamble?
Please read the Rules of Parlia and be careful always to play the argument, rather than dismiss it ("obtuse" or "outdated")
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In some countries such as the UK, IVF is included in free healthcare. However, this does not mean everyone is eligible, and there are other complications including extremely long waiting lists. Making a treatment free does not alleviate it of all these practical issues.
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