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Turi5y ago
**TL;DR: Jesus himself said he was an alien.**
Jesus told his followers about his extra-terrestrial background. John 8: 23 states “And He was saying to them, ‘You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world.’”
Conspiracy theorists have [claimed](https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/1288083/alien-religion-on-mars-jesus-christ-crucifix-lamb-of-god-aliens-statue) that they have found the symbol of the crucifix on the surface of Mars. They believe that the discovery of this symbol helps prove that Christ was an extraterrestrial who sought to teach all intelligent forms of life across the cosmos about ethics and morality.
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freyaehope5y ago
**TL;DR: Jesus was a ghost**
- Jesus was _not_ an alien – he was actually a ghost. Whilst most scholars stress the physical nature of Jesus’s resurrection, some speculate his [ghoul-like tendencies](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apparitions-Jesus-Resurrection-Ghost-Story-ebook/dp/B07D9CNHTH?asin=1942897162&revisionId=&format=4&depth=2). Deborah Thompson Prince examines the gospel of Luke’s account of Jesus’s resurrection, and finds many textual similarities and influences from contemporary Greco-Roman literature about [post-mortem disembodied spirits](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0142064x07076309?casa_token=tXA5xU3ykZgAAAAA:MJI7a4VHkDWEehKU6CPhcbIXsYZp_b7QIMr8kCaqcSbpxj7u_0bWopKTwYl0YVYsN45pJxEXPGg).
- Post-resurrection, Jesus seemingly could walk through walls! In John 20:19, ‘On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”’. The writer of this gospel emphasises the fact that the doors were locked, which implies that Jesus somehow passes through them. This seems at odds with arguments for his physical body, implying some kind of supernatural disembodiment, just as in ghost lore.
- There is other Biblical textual evidence of Jesus appearing and vanishing from nowhere, in the manner of a ghostly apparition. In Luke 24:36, Jesus appears very suddenly, startling his disciples: ‘While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”’ Likewise, in Luke 24:31, Jesus vanishes in front of the disciples: ‘Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight’.
- In both Matthew (14:26) and Luke (24:37), the disciples see Jesus and think that he is a ghost. Both times, Jesus immediately tries to shut this down; in Luke, he tries to disprove this by showing the disciples his crucifixion wounds, getting them to touch his physical body, and eating food in front of them. He says to them ‘Look at my hands and my feet. It is myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have’. Now, doesn’t that sound _exactly_ like something a ghost would say?
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Turi5y ago
Mind-blown. I'm loving this argument!
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joanyhardy1234y ago
so sad that with all the opportunities we humans have been shown we still choose not to evolve
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