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JenReneeGilley5y ago
**tl;dr - A game should be experienced vanilla at least once. If you can't enjoy a game for what it is out of the box, then you don't really like the game, you only like the mods.**
Developers put a lot of hard work and creative energy into the games they make, especially for such ambitious works as Skyrim (or any game in the Elder Scrolls series). This work should be appreciated as the developers originally intended *at least once* before the player goes modifying assets to suit their own whims. Otherwise, they're not *really* playing the game they bought – they're playing something entirely different, especially with heavy modifications.
You don't really like the game if you mod it before or during your first playthrough – and, in my opinion, you can't call yourself a fan if you've never experienced it vanilla.
Don't get me wrong – I absolutely *adore* mods, and I have over 100 for Skyrim alone (and nearly that many for most of the other PC games I play). But I also appreciate the games for what they are without mods. I still play Skyrim on the Nintendo Switch (a system that you can't mod Skyrim on) because I enjoy being able to play it on the go. Sure, I can't marry Brynjolf or go on a journey to obtain the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal, but I can still become a Nightingale and find all the stones of Barenziah and have one heck of a good time.
I've heard people who say that they can never play vanilla because "mods make it so much better." Well, yeah, of course they do – but you'll never know *how much better* unless you've played without them. And sure, we all wish for things that the vanilla game doesn't have. Part of the charm of modding a game you already love is to add in the things that you think are missing. But you need that first vanilla run to appreciate what's there, and to have the base to build upon in your imagination. That's how you make a mod that *supplements* a game, not *replaces* it. That's how you show your love as a *true* fan.
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stealthbeast5y ago
There's a bajillion Skyrim players that would like to have a word with you.
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JenReneeGilley5y ago
The thing about Skyrim is... I get it, it's a glitchy crapshow at its best, and an unplayable clustertruck at its worst. And I won't deny that modding it out of the box makes it a million times more palatable to the general audience.
But here's the thing: I *still* manage to enjoy it in all its raw, vanilla glitchy glory even without the ability to mod it on the Switch. Even though I've encountered several gamebreaking bugs in my Switch playthrough that almost made me quit the game entirely. That's because I appreciate the game for what it is without all the bells and whistles. On the PC, I have modded Skyrim to the nines (hah, the Nines), customized it to near perfection, and I *still* keep going back to the Switch version for two major reasons: 1) the portability (which has nothing to do with Skyrim's own merits, fair enough), and 2) the simplicity of the vanilla gameplay. Sometimes you just don't want all that excess goop that gets stuck to the bottom of your shoe when you mod a game to oblivion (hah, Oblivion). Sometimes you just wanna get on a horse and go fill out the map, or dive into a few dungeons or raid a couple of bandit forts without Thomas the Train Engines swooping down from the skies. Sometimes you don't want to marry Serana, sometimes you just want to have her along as a wacky companion on your quest to find floor-swimmers and floating objects and teleporting bards. Sometimes you don't want to be OP with nearly-broken cheat mods, free player homes, and summonable dragon mounts at level 1. Mods like that kind of take the charm out of the whole experience, bugs and all.
Don't believe me that playing it vanilla can be just as entertaining, if not more so than modding? Go watch [Vinesauce Vinny's](https://youtu.be/_09vATdJq1U) playthrough of it on the Switch on YouTube. Or heck, even just the [highlights](https://youtu.be/QYC7CBuMBOg).
Anyway, my point is that Skyrim has so much to offer right out of the box. If glitches aren't your thing, fair enough. I don't have a problem with installing unofficial bugfixes and patches. If you're really spoiled to modern graphics (ugh) then go for the graphics mods, sure. But stop right there if you've never played the game vanilla before, because it really does have a lot to offer on its own. The *quests*. The *characters*. The *story*. The *lore*. The *world* and endless *exploration* there is to be had. Eat all that up *first*, and if it's still not enough, *then* toss on all the mods.
I love my Skyrim mods. I really do. But I'm a fan of the game because of the *game*, not the mods. Those are just icing on the cake.
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Torric5y ago
Should at least play it. I would like people to beat the game as the devs designed it yes but if you play it and dislike it but a mod improved it. Is it bad?
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TheMastaDebata5y ago
Yooooo, i am NOT playing RE Village without "those" mods and that is just factuals lol. Also some mods help people with epilepsy and stuff.
If the mods let you cheat, I agree, but if they just change up the visuals then it's fine.
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