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epalmer4y ago
**It is a highly incorrect and harmful stereotype that feminism exists simply to serve women**
**How feminism benefits the general population:**
- Allowing and encouraging women to enter and advance in traditionally male-dominated fields, particularly the sciences and medical roles, means we are able to utilise the skills, knowledge and minds of half of the world's population, which were previously excluded.
- This means advancement and development in these areas, new theories and discoveries, improved healthcare for all - factors that would improve lives and be good for everyone.
- It also boosts the economy: Goldman Sachs calculates that, leaving all other things equal, increasing women's participation in the labor market to male levels will [boost GDP](https://www.economist.com/briefing/2009/12/30/female-power) by 21% in Italy, 19% in Spain, 16% in Japan, 9% in America, France and Germany and 8% in Britain.
**How feminism benefits men:**
- Patriarchy causes harm to both men and women, perpetuating inequality and stereotypes. Feminism works to break down the patriarchy, eradicating the harm caused to men as much as women.
- It helps to destroy the harmful stereotypes of men as aggressive and unemotional compared to quiet and weak women.
- Feminists even overturned [discriminatory laws](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/08/ruth-bader-ginsburg-shows-how-feminism-is-done-again.html) regarding men based on these stereotypes.
- It triggered the FBI to change the definition of r*pe to include [male victims](https://feminist.org/our-work/violence-against-women/), and further lead to prisons being safer for men as part of The Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003, spearheaded by prominent feminist activist Lovisa Stannow.
- It gives men better working conditions and rights, as well as being able to juggle work and homelife more healthily, by advocating for things such as paternity leave.
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Jonathanese4y ago
I do agree, but with caveats. Largely to do with its public image and how it handles issues outside its scope.
For one, not all gender issues can be reduced to patriarchy, and no social issues should be judged as "real" or not based on how they can be retconned into patriarchy theory. This is very much the case with how men's issues are viewed or discussed. Or more often, how they are not.
A common attitude might go like "homelessness is mostly male. That is why men need feminism. So come join this group that does absolutely nothing to acknowledge homelessness as a male issue, nor do much to reduce homelessness as a whole."
Similarly, they need to acknowledge women's agency and power where it exists. This isn't just acknowledging women in power, but acknowledging that not all social pressures originate from men. Women are major sources of social pressures and influence, and I very often see this ignored when such pressures are negative.
In my own experience, I have never been told to "man up" by a man. Similarly, "he is just insecure" is a common talking point to degrade men who disagree, despite the insistence that "man up" originates solely from patriarchy. It is generally seen that men should be restricting what they do or say because of the social pressures it creates, but it would be unthinkable that women be subject to these same restrictions, as though they do not create similar pressures.
This, to me, is one of several cases of what I call "retreating to hypoagency", a tactic I consider to be especially anti-feminist. Essentially, the moment people say you are capable of harm, you jump to taking a stance of "I am just <blank>. I incapable of such things". Another such example is the "---ism requires prejudice plus power", which is a blunt refusal to reflect on your own prejudice on the basis of race/sex/age etc.
For another, pop-feminist and feminist journalism need to do a lot of work on things like interpreting statistics. For instance, the ratio of military deaths may be 99% men and 1% women. If ~1% fewer men died in combat, that might go to ~98% and ~2%. This is exactly NOT the time to release a report saying "Women's military death rates double! Why is the military sending women to die?!" This sort of reporting is exactly where feminism gets its stereotypes and creates its biggest critics.
But do note that you are often most critical of what you love. Feminism has done wonders especially for women but also a great deal for men. This is why I am more interested in critiquing the methods and especially the PR, and less interested in creating some new movement per se.
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The only people feminism negatively impacts is rapists, misogynists, pedophiles and abusers.
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WISDOMM1y ago
All Id like to say that we should live in harmony where women and men have the same exact rights. Currently? That's not even close to the truth as of now. Some countries have more rights for men and some for women. All of us human beings, yes different, but we live on one planet that is not replaceable, that should be enough motivation to create some peace amongst humankind!
- Be kind to people around you! :)
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mtaylor5mo ago
What we want is equality across all genders / sexes. Feminism had it's place - but modern day feminism has mutated in a way which is overall damaging to true equality goals.
The pendulum approach to eqaulity (push hard in the opposite direction) always causes constant swing. Instead we need more people aiming for the true center (equality).
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