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Evidently not. This is not a complex topic. Sorry. Bye bye.
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**Our world's history is riddled with examples that God does not intervene.** Although I am not religious, I can understand the sentiment behind the idea that God intervenes. However, nice thoughts aside, I feel there have been [numerous events](https://steemit.com/history/@zam398/tragic-brutal-and-horrible-events-in-history-that-changed-the-world) that definitely called for some holy intervention, yet tragedy ran its course time and time again. But is this lack of divinity justified? One concept that leads me to believe [intervention was never intended](https://www.jstor.org/stable/1201142) is: → When God created man, he [provided freedom and love](https://redeeminggod.com/gods-policy-of-non-intervention/). In doing so, unspoken parameters were put into place, prohibiting interference. Regardless of the why, the fact remains that we live in an interference-free world.
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Laura5y ago
**The fact that people often experience God strongly when they are not looking for him suggests that God 'intervenes' in the world.** (My comment comes from the perspective of a Christian, so will obviously not be convincing from a secular viewpoint – but here are my thoughts anyway.) - [The problem of evil](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/) (i.e. how can we have a God that is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent who lets suffering exist), is the strongest argument for saying that God does not intervene. I won’t try and explain away suffering, as trying to rationalise and justify suffering in human history ourselves is insulting and leads us to stop appreciating the depth of pain that many human beings experience. - There is some debate as to how much God ‘intervenes’ or whether God allows our free will to dictate our lives. However, many people including converts say that their experiences of God have felt sudden and did not come from them actively choosing to seek out God themselves. ([St Paul’s vision](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Paul-the-Apostle) is one good example of this, among endless numbers of others.) God definitely ‘intervened’ in the world through the person of Jesus. - Again, it is impossible to make a very persuasive case about why God lets innocent people suffer if he can intervene in the world. In the end, it comes down to faith that God is both Good and beyond our understanding. (Proverbs says [‘Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding’](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%203%3A5-6&version=NIV).) Naturally, this is not convincing for people who don’t believe in God at all, however, I think suggesting that these answers are beyond us makes sense within a Christian worldview.
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Mikkitoro5y ago
This is my thought with suffering. It's like yin-yang, there cannot be light without darkness, there cannot be life without death and there cannot be peace without suffering. The answer to why God allows suffering is only known by him but maybe my hypothesy is correct. I don't think he intervenes in our lives cause he doesn't come across as a micromanager but he does more of guiding us in the right general direction. An example is the bible who tells us a resemblance of a live we should live. And we choose if we want that live or another but he wont stop us. That is just my opinion.
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**Does God have to exist to intervene in the world?** There are numerous instances of human beings acting at the behest of a deity, on behalf of a deity, in the name of a deity, or to seek the recognition of a deity. These individuals are acting regardless of whether God truly _exists_. Of course, God exists in their eyes, but whether this is true outside of their belief is, arguably, not relevant to whether those individuals will undertake those behaviours. In other words, so long as they _believe_ God exists, they will act. Can we claim that the 'idea of God', or the 'concept of God', is intervening in the world? In the form of followers, God is affecting the world.
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Turi5y ago
Love this point!
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