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....Yes? SOME sort of effort needs to be made to help someone in crisis. But I don't believe in forcing your will onto other people, even if they might die.
At one of the lowest points in my life, I had a partial suicide attempt. My parents called the police, I verbally resisted, the cops didn't care about what I had to say and walked me out of my own home in handcuffs and threw me into a psych ward filled with crazy, violent people, half of which were clearly going through visible withdrawal symptoms. That place was a fucking zoo. And the staff were incredibly hit or miss. And because I'm a gun owner, I was forced to check myself in (a 302 warrant would disqualify me from having guns), and didn't have the usual time limits to look forward to.. They kept me there for a very long time, and if I tried to fight it legally, I would have my guns confiscated, which was an incredibly important hobby to me at that time. (Also guns never had anything to do with my suicide attempts. I was recently trained in EMS at that time, why the hell would I use a gun? I know exactly what can go wrong with headshots, there's more reliable ways to die. Having my hobby be used as legal leverage against me was... cruel.)
Needless to say, ripping me away from my support network when I'm at my most vulnerable and what few coping devices I had in my life, tossing me into a cell, with a cellmate, where we can touch both sides of the cell with our arms at the same time worsened my mental condition. No phone, no friends, no where to jerk off, nothing. Not to mention, when I got there, they threw out my entire established med regimen and forced me to take a brand new regimen. A regimen with horrible side effects. It was the only time in my life that I passed out. Thank god I happened to get only good cellmates. That was the one saving grace of that experience.
After that horrific, scarring experience, I vowed NEVER to tell ANYONE about the reality of my suicidal ideations or behavior ever again. Not my parents. Not my friends. And absolutely not my psychiatrist. They're just going to have to try to treat me as I occasionally reach out and half lie whenever I go into crisis.
Why the **** do I have to do this act? I don't want to hide my feelings anymore. I need someone in my real life to know how bad it gets sometimes but I just can't do that without risking getting incarcerated.
I live in right-to-die state and I absolutely believe in a right to euthanasia for the terminally ill.
Beyond that, of course. I'm not sure how much force is justified in protecting a person from themselves. But one should at least try.
Super interesting distinction...
The term “always” has me vote against. A person suffering from a terminal disease has every right to decide they do not want to put themselves or their family through the pain that comes with the late stages of the disease. When a dog or cat is suffering or in pain we allow a vet to stop their pain so they die painlessly. Why do we deny humans the same?
I agree with "prevent" - I would not be so sure if the proposition were : You should always try to stop someone from killing themselves.
All actions that would prevent people from getting to the point where they want to kill themselves (whether this be suicide by desperation, self-sacrifice in military combat for the benefit of others, suicide bombers, euthanasia etc) are usually worth pursuing. But once someone has made a decision to do this, the issue becomes a lot more complex and would depend on circumstances.
You should never stop someone from committing suicide - it's their own body, and therefore they are responsible for what happens to themself.
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