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To live is to suffer. Suffering and death are the only two absolutes in life. I'm also of the opinion that the pains of life (grief, heartache, physical pain, illnesses etc...) far outweigh any joys of life however even to those whom may think differently, the joys of life don't negate the pain. If a person is born to the ritchest family on Earth, has all his/her needs met, doesn't want for anything and is the happiest person on Earth and the only pain he/she ever feels in life is a sprained ankle then the experience of spraining their ankle is still valid. They can't just stop the pain by exchanging it with some of their happiness and that is a pain that could've been avoided if their parents didn't bring them into this world. Furthermore, were they not born, they wouldn't be missing out on any of the joys of life because they wouldn't be sentient to know what they're missing out on. The atoms floating around us don't care that they were never able to become human. If a person has children then they are selfishly exposing that child to a life of pain.

For as long as I can remember I've held the opinion that existence is suffering yet I couldn't agree more with your comment.
I hope I'm wrong. I want to be wrong, I want life to be worth living for the majority of people. But I can't believe that it is for anyone.

Sorry for the delayed reply, I kept meaning to respond but kept putting it off, ADHD is a b*tch.

I don't believe my last point was out of the blue at all. The understanding that existence is pain has directly lead to the antinatalist mindset, antinatalism being the belief that procreation is an inheritley negative act. I am myself an antinatalist as I believe that bringing life into this world, life that will inevitably suffer in one way or another, is amoungst the cruelest things people can do.

Ultimately, the absence of suffering is positive whereas the absence of joy is neutral. Therefore its better to not experience either than to experience both.

You brought them into this world! You owe them everything!

It is cruel to bring life into this world. Even if the pains of life didn't outweigh the joys, the joys still wouldn't invalidate the pains. The pain and suffering a person feels in life is still valid no matter how happy and privileged they are outside of that suffering and that suffering needn't have happened if the individuals parents hadn't selfishly decided to bring life into this world.
I implore absolutley everyone who is reading this to get steralised.

I'm genuinley offended that anyone would hold such an opinion. You can see my comment higher up if you wanna know my full opinion on this but in short, if you don't want to adopt then you shouldn't have children at all.

Procreation is one of the most cruel and selfish acts a person can commit.

I strongly disagree with reproduction however it is a basic instinct for all sentient beings. Many animals will sacrifice themselves in order to procreate. It is the fundamental purpose of life and it's quite discusting really. Why anyone would suffer through life to a point where they're able to reproduce and then think to themselves 'I know, I' ll bring more life into this world so it can suffer as I have' I'll never understand. We should be giving vasectomies and hysterectomies on demand to everyone.

I strongly agree on the grounds that I think no one should recieve the death penalty. It is a barbaric and unjust act that prioritises vengeance over justice.
Furthermore, you either have faith that criminals can be rehabilitated into society or you don't. If you don't, then why wouldn't you advocate for all prisoners to be executed and alleviate the strain on the taxpayer? If you do and still chose to execute some criminals then you're chosing to kill someone over rehabilitating them. That's barbaric.

Northern Ireland is United, with Britain, by choice. There was a refferendum and the people chose to stay.

The Republic took advantage of a weakened UK following WWI and waged a bloody war, killing many innocent people in their numerous terrorist attacks and endded up seceding. I can't say Britain didn't have it coming, as corrupt and abhorrent as the IRA were and are, the Empire wasn't historically friendly to the Irish.

That said, Northern Ireland opted to remain part of the UK and that's how it should remain. Ireland is an Island with two countries on it. Any Southern Irish wanting to unite the island is simply an imperialist.

If Ireland and Northern Ireland are to be united again, it should be by the Republic re-joining the Union.

I doubt that they even contribute to the disparities at all. Men and women are different, it's not rocket science. Given the free will to chose their own path in life, men and women will make different choices.

So long as they all have the same opportunity to pursue a career (outside of the military of course) then the demographic outcome is irrelevant.

It is cruel to bring life into this world. Even if the pains of life didn't outweigh the joys, the joys still wouldn't invalidate the pains. The pain and suffering a person feels in life is still valid no matter how happy and privileged they are outside of that suffering and that suffering needn't have happened if the individuals parents hadn't selfishly decided to bring life into this world.
I implore absolutley everyone who is reading this to get steralised.

It's literally just paying someone a compliment. Should we ban compliments?

Freedom of speech is the most fundamental aspect of a free society.

I have to question if the people agreeing with this have ever felt grief or heartbreak over a loved one before.
I can't fathom how anyone can go through that and still claim that it was worth it.

I'm not sure. I'd have had a much easier ride through society and would've been treatet better and had fewer expectations placed on me but the biological dowsides to being a woman are not something I take lightly. Honestly, after seeing women in my life suffer with heavy periods and endometriosis, I think that I'd rather be a man in spite of all the risks and hardships it entails.

CIS isn't a gender, it's a state of being. It's a PC way of saying of sound mind.

Strongly disagree. What did any of us know about politics at 18. It should be raised to 25.

Hear hear.

I don't know how to adequately argue my point here without being overly emotive.
Art is subjective to the individual and if someone wants to find beauty in a solid red canvas then power to them.
However there needs to be a collective standard if artistic media is to mean anything and if someone gets paid millions for sticking the afore mentioned solid red canvas on a museum wall then the artist community on the whole has gone doolally.

It's difficult to say. Whilst yes, men are smarter than women, they're also dumber. Men dominate the extreme ends of intelligence. The average idiot and the average genius will both be male whereas women dominate the centre of that scale.
Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26158978/

It's not democratic. What they're talking about here is fascism.

I don't consider his/her comment to be an attack. He/she is welcome to criticise my opinion.
Doing so is merely airing their opinion on my opinion which is fine.
I don't need the mods to coddle me and if anyone on the site does then they need to get off it as well as the internet as a whole.

That said, if @Valdorel defines facism as anything other than a single party state I'd like to hear it.

You've just argued in favour of the statement.

Legalise it for those willing to be steralised.

Gaul stones are more painful that childbirth and men get them more often.
Furthermore you don't see many men that're eager to have them again whereas many women choose to go through childbirth multiple times.

With good reason. Feminism exists on, and is centered around the concept that women have it worse than men in society. In a society where men are seen as, and treated as disposable, a society where men will be tossed to one side if it's deemed convenient for women, why would any man identify with feminism?

Feminism is a supremacist movement through and through.

How does one define facism? As far as I can tell, facism is a system of governance where a single political party holds absolute power. Whilst all past facist parties that came to power have been left wing, I see no reason why right wing parties couldn't adopt this form of governance.

Life sucks. Why make it worse for someone by bringing them into a world where even their parents don't want them. Abortion is a mercy killing.

I have the cognative ability and worldy understanding to make that decision for myself. A foetus does not. Besides, if someone was to put me out of my misery then that would only perpetuate heartache and misery throughout those who love me. It would cause more misery than it would solve and where would that end? You wanna kill all the people who love me? Well what about the people who love them? That mindset would see the world eradicated in less than a year.

It's one thing to take a foetuses life, it's quite another to take a fully formed humans.

Also, where I'm from suicide is the biggest cause of death amoungst young people. How much higher do those rates need to be for you to accept that life is suffering?

I'm not denying the unborn child anything.
That child will never develop the understanding to know what it's missing out on. Do you think the atoms that float around us care that they missed out on becoming a human? No, they have no thought or cognition. Therefore the unborn child will not be missing out on anything by being aborted.
If it's not aborted then it will suffer a life of pain, grief, heartache, illness, war, draught and all the other things associated with life alongside the fact that it's born to parents that never even wanted it. How can anyone condone such an act? Do you think the joys of life outweigh the pains?

As for those who are alone, they have the cognitive ability to decide for themselves if they want to continue or not and for that matter, I think suicide should be legal.

For those who cannot make that decision (ie: they're in a coma, they're braindead, they've suffered trauma which damages their cognition to a point beyone repair) I fully support euthanasia.

Surely the only people who would find this controversial are people who want to perpetuate suffering, right?

Well you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Look, life begins before birth. An egg cell is a living organism, a sperm cell is a living organism. The question is, when do they become human.

Well at the moment of conception all that persons blueprints are laid out.
The embryo already has a pre determined eye colour, skin colour, predisposition to being fat/thin, tall/short, smart/thick. A life becomes a human life at the moment of conception.
Calling it a child may be a stretch, it's more vulnerable than a child or even a baby. But it is most certainly a human. A person.

Yup. As a man living in Britain, I'm living that truth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA, that's bollocks.

Has there been a matriarchal society in history that hasn't been at war at some point or other?

Historically, female rulers are more likely to declare war than male rulers.

There was no sarcasm.

Well yeah. How is he not?

Well he's technically a horde of zombies, rather than just one zombie.

This is true for all races. A black man is less prone to skin disorders and cancers than a white man. That's a superior trait.
A white man is less prone blood disorders and is more likely to survive a noval pnumatic epidemic, like Covid-19 for instance.
I don't consider it racist to acknowledge that there are genetic differences in people of different races.

It is worded rather suspiciously. I guess it's open to interpretation. I don't think that any singular race is superior to all others as a general rule. We all have something to bring to the table.

It's not. It's simply recycling questions from the political compass, an online quiz designed to predict a persons political leanings.

This is just how humans function. All successful civilisations followed this model.

Nope. If you believe, as I do, that all people can be reformed then the primary function of the prison system should be to reform criminals and they should be ceaseless and relentless in this task. If any branch of the state executes criminals under the death penalty then it has failed its people.

It's important but I wouldn't say it's the MOST important thing. I think tolerance is more important than discipline.

Well fucking duh.

The question never said anything about rape. It just said consequences.
Consequence could be a sideways glance from others, getting cold if the weather turns or feeling more confident in ones self, not all consequences are bad.

That said, yeah, people are going to look and make comments and throw the occasional compliment. You can't tell me that there aren't women out there who wear revealing clothes for this exact reason.

I don't know why it's become ascribed specifically to white women. Most people I've seen displaying those traits are black.

Depends on the person.

Oh ho yes. 100%. At least where I'm from, society is massively sexist against men.
I don't think we have it as bad as women do in other countries but the scales have tipped a bit too far in the other direction for my country.
I still think women have it worse globally, but not where I'm from.

They're more inclined to go into those fields. That doesn't necessarily mean they are naturally better at those subject.

I agree on the ground that no one should wear dreadlocks.
They're dirty and ugly.

I think you need to unpack why you think not liking a certain hairstyle is borderline racist.
I don't care what colour the person wearing the dreads is, they still look dirty and daft.

Absolutely disagree. Men face far more and far worse discrimination than women. At least in my country of England that is.

It's definitely not a good thing. TV shows shouldn't be trying to push an agenda. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and beliefs and many people disagree with the woke, leftist, authoritarian agenda.
Most people just want to be allowed to live their lives without being told how to live it.
Dr. Who is nothing but PC tripe now and it deserves to fail.
Also Wittaker was a terrible doctor and was clearly only hired because of her fanny. Tale as old as time really.

In other news, the sky is blue.

Absolutley not! A person has no control how someone reacts to what they say, a persons reactions are their own.
No matter what you say, no matter how innocent a statement you make, someone somewhere would be offended by it. Unless you're a mind reader, you have no control over how someone reacts to what you say.
It's the intent that matters. If a person says something in the hopes that the recipient takes offence then that individual is a dick. However, he's a dick regardless of how the recipient reacts. The recipient could, and should, just not take offence. That is the best course of action. His reactions are his responsibility and he's denighed the other party the satisfaction on knowing the recipient was offended.

Of course. How many times must this be investigated before people accept that discrimination plays a minute role in the pay gap.
It could more accurately be described as a gender earnings gap.

Jewdaism is a religion. Blacks, whites and anything in-between can be Jewish.
As for ethnically Jewish, no they're Middle-Eastern. Closer to Arabic than White.

Well what is gender. Is it a reflection of a persons biological sex or a masculinity/femininity spectrum? If it's a spectrum then how many genders are there? Everyone falls on different areas of that spectrum. There are plenty of cis women who are more masculine than the average man. There are also plently of cis men who are more feminine than your average woman. Do we have different gender identites for every person? At that point gender becomes obsolete.

Do we break down the spectrum into different sections? Well that what if someone identifying as a cis man falls more on the feminine side than a demi-girl (or whatever a semi-feminine man is called). Is the cis man wrong about who he is?

Either gender correlates with sex or gender is obsolete.

No, the idea of gender being a spectrum should be stricken from society and gender should remain a reflection of ones biological sex.

Depends on the society. Middle-Easteners integrating into Western Societies is always a positive. Westerners integrating into Middle-Eastern societies rarely is.

Depends on the person and what they're going through.

Errm, no. There is a standard for civilisation and some people don't meet it.

That's not to say that some civilisations aren't savage. Look at India and their practice of widow burning.

I 100% agree with this and I find it disheartening that so many other people don't. Life sucks. Bringing a child into this world is cruel and selfish. You'll be responsible for all the pain, illness, grief, heartache and any other negative emotions that person has throughout their life because you brought them into this world.

Now imagine you brought a child into the world knowing there is a high chance of them suffering from a serious disability that they inherited from you. You've magnified the pain of an already sucky life just so you can have a child. Like it's a toy car or something.

There is never a none selfish reason for having kids.

In other news, water is wet.

What is justice if not just another word for vengeance? The legal system should focus more on rehabilitation than punishment.

I'm British, I have a lot to be proud of.

Tbf, I generally think it's wrong to take pride in things that you didn't directly have a hand in. I didn't save the widows in India, depose European despots, invent the telephone, the television, the internet, the steam engine so why should I take pride in it? But I do. I can't help it.
My tax money did go into ending slavery though so that's I'm proud of.

Equity requires unfair and preferential treatment of certain groups over others.
It looks at group identities rather than individuals.
In a work setting, the best person should always get the job regardless of whether or not this leads to a workplace full of black/white people, men/women, gay/straight people or not.

Humans are social creatures that have evolved to work together to survive.
Put them in a crisis and watch them work together. Put them in a time or relative prosperity and they'll stab each other in the back.

Couldn't have said it better 👍